The lesson
Give a conference conversation a title that names the problem you are about to solve for the viewer.
Two men sit across from each other with podcast microphones on a blue background with a Dreamforce logo. Their names read "Rohan Kumar & Chamath Palihapitiya" and the title, in large white type across the bottom, is "Agentic Sprawl".
Don't invent a problem term the audience doesn't recognize. Keep the format: big title, named guests, and no product claim on the thumbnail.